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IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 2:40 am
by marflao
Hi,

I don´t know if my question has already been asked and answered in the forum. In case it has, please apologize and point me to the thread. Thanks.

Currently I´m a happy camper, using sabnzbd installed on my Syno NAS and astraweb as my usenet provider.
But in a couple of months I will move to another house and need to change my telephone/internet provider. The new provider will only provide IPv6 addresses to his new "private" customers (I could also get a "business" contract with a lower down-/upload speed BUT with an IPv4 address).

So my question is: will I still be able to download via sabnzbd & astraweb while using the "new" IPv6 address or will that not work (because this aforementioned combination works only with IPv4 addresses)?

Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,
M.

Re: IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 8:23 am
by sander
marflao wrote:The new provider will only provide IPv6 addresses to his new "private" customers
I do know there are ISP's who provide RFC1918-IPv4 tunneling over IPv6, and NAT464, but I've never heard of IPv6-only consumers connections and I can't believe that in the current Internet situation. Reason: if you would have IPv6 only, you could not reach this forum as this forum is IPv4-only.

So please give more details which ISP that is and a link to their statement they will only provide Ipv6-only to new customers.

Re: IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 9:05 am
by marflao
Hi sander,

thanks for your response.

I´m situated in Germany and the telco provider I´m referring to is Unitymedia.

Here´s a link to their statement: https://app.unitymedia.de/service/index ... y=&q2=ipv6 (sorry only in German)

Translation:
"Yes , since July 1, 2012. Unitymedia started with the assignment of IPv6 addresses to its internet connections for new customers.
IPv6 is therefore offered at Unitymedia in some regions for new customers on selected products.
Since the end of November 2012 Unitymedia also issues IPv6 addresses to the existing customers who want to change in selected products.

From the following list 2 different DNS server will be used as the DNS server for the IPv6 connections:
2a02:908:2:1101::11
2a02:908:2:1102::11
2a02:908:2:1103::11
2a02:908:2:1104::11
2a02:908:2:1105::11
2a02:908:2:1106::11
2a02:908:2:1107::11
2a02:908:2:1108::11
2a02:908:2:1109::11
2a02:908:2:110a::11

Unitymedia assigns IPv6 addresses from the range 2a02:908:: - 2a02:908:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff."


There is a Unitymedia community and the guys over there recommend - especially if you like to have access to your home server/NAS from the "outside" - to get the "business" tarif/product because then you´ll still get an IPv4 address.

Does that help a bit?

Re: IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 9:31 am
by sander
"Werden bei Unitymedia auch IPv6 Adressen vergeben?" ... I have underlined the essential word: *auch*. So, on top of IPv4.

You will get both IPv4 and IPv6.
Possibly only RFC1918 (so: private) IPv4 address on your WAN interface, but that is no issue for downloading by SABnzbd.

It could however cause a problem if you want to access SABnzbd's webinterface remotely from Internet. There are workarounds for that. I would not spend extra money for a business line.

A possible workaround: a HTTP or HTTPS ipv6-only URL ... just put ipv4.sixxs.org behind the FQDN. So, for example: http://ipv6.google.com => http://ipv6.google.com.ipv4.sixxs.org

Re: IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 2:29 pm
by marflao
I wished that would be the case, sander.

But if I understood the comments in the other forum correctly new customer with a private tariff will get IPv6/DS-lite.
Which means 1 public IPv6 address; IPv4 will be "tunneled" via IPv6.

Now I must admit I have not much knowledge of those network topics therefore my "simple" questions.

I will use sabnzbd & astraweb ONLY at home (via Wifi or LAN) , not per remote.
As per response from astraweb´s customer service they don´t support IPv6 at the time being.

Hmm..still puzzled if it would work in case I would use Unitymedia "private" tariff (with the IPv6).

Re: IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 7th, 2014, 3:43 pm
by sander
marflao wrote:I wished that would be the case, sander.

But if I understood the comments in the other forum correctly new customer with a private tariff will get IPv6/DS-lite.
Which means 1 public IPv6 address; IPv4 will be "tunneled" via IPv6.
Correct. And that IPv4-over-IPv6 will just feel like IPv4 behind a NAT device (like a router, which you probably already have now) ... meaning: no problem with outgoing sessions. SABnzbd uses outgoing sessions for downloading.

So: no worries. Just start using the new connection as soon as you have it. The ISP will have taken care that you will experience a normal Internet. ... Except for remotely access to your home connection.

Re: IPv6 | sabnzbd & astraweb - will it work?

Posted: November 8th, 2014, 6:20 am
by marflao
I won't use an additional router connected to the cable modem/router which will be provided by Unitymedia. At least I haven't intended yet to get one. Therefore everything will be done "through" the one from Unitymedia.

But that shouldn't be the "dealbreaker", or?

Jeeeeeeze... the more I dig in the Unitymedia forum around this IPv6/DS-lite topic, the more I get puzzled.