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Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 15th, 2012, 4:35 pm
by omegadcuk
Hi Guys,

I'm having HUGE newsgroup problems, similar to another poster; where Arrow and Revolution in particular are always corrupt. Not blaming SAB because i've tested using various news downloaders, none work.
So i thought i would see how other SAB users are faring? Now i've been around the scene long enough to know that PAR's recover faulty files etc. and never had many problems before.
But all of a sudden there seems to me to be a MASSIVE increase of corrupted TV series and I was wondering if i'm paranoid and should be locked up ??? ??? or if anyone else has noticed this and overcome it?
- if so please god - how?! lol

Heres my story for those in need of a sleep aid! :

eg: this and many other arrow 105 nzb's are corrupt, too many for coincidence: Arrow.S01E05.720p.WEB.DL.DD5.1.H.264-TB.nzb PS:If its any use i can post the NZB contents?

I've tried 3 or 4 news hosting co's newshosting.com (my normal provider), free account at Supernews, virginmedia (LMAO!) and thundernews (old a/c I reactivated to test)

tired setting all of them with various priorities in newsleecher and other leechers to test and rule SABNzb out.

downloaded the nzb from newzbin2 AND even became a member of nzb.su and tried downloading from there.

Tried SSL, non SSL, different ports, disabling firewalls etc.

Also searched the groups for the files using newsleecher, found several (6!), downloaded all, but all corrupt and not recoverable.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 15th, 2012, 4:36 pm
by omegadcuk
oh just to say - I LOVE SAb and Sickbeard they are a fearsome combination - great work guys!

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 15th, 2012, 4:45 pm
by shypike
omegadcuk wrote:If its any use i can post the NZB contents?
Can you email a few examples (that you're sure of to be "poisoned"), to bugs@sabnzbd.org ?
Please add the URL of this post.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 15th, 2012, 5:32 pm
by omegadcuk
thanks :) email sent.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 16th, 2012, 2:32 pm
by shypike
Checked two of your NZB files.
One is fine, the other one is encrypted.
I use Astraweb and Supernews.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 16th, 2012, 4:02 pm
by omegadcuk
Well i guess the culprit is below, i posted the link for anyone interested - next move to the scene groups i guess :/
they will probably start obfuscating the names of things they post.

http://torrentfreak.com/usenet-feels-th ... nt-121109/

Some salient sound-bites from the article:

"" But despite these perceived upsides, users are complaining more often that content they expect to be present on Usenet servers has actually gone by the time they try to retrieve it. The culprit – DMCA takedowns. ""

"“ It’s not necessarily big parties like Disney who want their content taken offline,” said Van Herpen. “Sometimes they are television companies too. ”"

"" “What my team does is monitor usenet 24/7 using a Bayesian Classifier. We also verify everything 100% to ensure we are making the proper removal requests for the UFC and our other clients,” Joe Morganelli of Morganelli Group LLC told TorrentFreak. ""

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 16th, 2012, 4:19 pm
by sander
omegadcuk wrote:Well i guess the culprit is below, i posted the link for anyone interested - next move to the scene groups i guess :/
they will probably start obfuscating the names of things they post.
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Well, yes, if you post obfuscated, it won't be found. You can give the secret pointer / .NZB to one or two friends, and it will still not be found and thus not DMCA-ed.
But as soon as you post it on a accessible forums with the real name, it can be found by others ... possibly leading to a DMCA.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 18th, 2012, 12:53 pm
by omegadcuk
well sadly i've been in touch with my newsgroup provider "newshosting" and they have confirmed that all the tv series were removed due to "copyright violation".

Whilst I get all sides of the argument re copyright, the DMCA etc. I pay a very hefty sum per month to virgin media and the main reason I download TV series is because i've missed them thanks to the shite scheduler in tivo or simply the convenience of having them available whenever I want through XBMC. Plus obviously US is 6 months ahead of the UK - why the hell is that?!

Anyway ranting and reason aside its still "illegal" so guess I will have to adapt :)

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 18th, 2012, 2:58 pm
by mastyman
Its possible SABNZbd could work around about this, because those poisoned\failed downloads so to speak, will work just fine if extracted manually with winrar etc manually

people do report in the threads for these particular shows other news group downloaders are work, but sabnzbd users will need to extract those ones manually

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 18th, 2012, 3:24 pm
by omegadcuk
No I've tried extracting manually using different rar/zip utils all fail .

Nothing could extract or recover them because they are not even 30% there.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 18th, 2012, 10:31 pm
by mastyman
if you look at the comments for Arrow which are "poisoned" for example you will see many examples of ppl being able to exact them successfully manually but "failed" in sabnbbd, Theres also posts on ppl who say it doesnt work for them as well so i guess your one of those guys.

Re: Corrupted downloads - is organized poisoning going on???

Posted: November 19th, 2012, 1:11 am
by shypike
Earlier version that 0.7.6 couldn't handle incorrectly named rar/parvsets.
Although that should be the same for everyone.
I would be interested to see a debug log from someone who can
post-process such a download with external tools.