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causalloop
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Retention issue

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Hi,

I'll give a brief rundown of my setup:

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 in a VM. I'm a paid Easynews user and I believe the retention time is up to 1200 days now. Currently running 0.7.3 of sab. I use Couchpotato and Sickbeard for movies/tv shows etc.

For the most part, I don't have very many problems, but every now and then, this one crops up and its very frustrating because I can download the darn thing manually...

Just for clarification, if I set the retention in sab and/or couchpotato, its not going to download or look for files older than that time right?

I'm trying to download Batman Begins. Couch potato seems to have no problems finding an nzb on easynews and proceeds to send it off like usual to sab. Sab sits there and spins its wheels and continuously reports missing articles. The download its looking at at the moment is about 13gb and its up to about 4500 missing articles (started it about 10 minutes ago) and counting. this isn't the first time I've tried this and I know that the end result will be that it "finishes" and says: "Download failed - Out of your server's retention?" If I hover over the file in the queue, it says its 69 days old. If I go to easynews' web front end, I can find the files and download them manually (btw, there's only 71 files including the pars).

Clearly I'm missing something (undoubtedly staring me in the face) or is there a bug? Most movies download fine, as do TV shows and the other random things I download. What info can I stick up here that will help someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
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Re: Retention issue

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So if you do NOT set the retention in sab and/or couchpotato, it works?
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Re: Retention issue

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You should not set a retention time in SABnzbd when you have only one server.
Although when you set it to 1200 it shouldn't matter.
What we don't know is whether there's a difference between Easynews Usenet service
and their direct download.
What you mentioned is a popular target for DMCA takedown notfications.
I'd say, one failing item with an alternative Usenet program.
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Re: Retention issue

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sander wrote:So if you do NOT set the retention in sab and/or couchpotato, it works?
It doesn't seem to matter what I set the retention to in sab, though if I set it too low in couchpotato, I see an error in the log and it won't send anything to sab - which would appear to be working as desinged...?
shypike wrote:You should not set a retention time in SABnzbd when you have only one server.
Although when you set it to 1200 it shouldn't matter.
What we don't know is whether there's a difference between Easynews Usenet service
and their direct download.
What you mentioned is a popular target for DMCA takedown notfications.
I'd say, one failing item with an alternative Usenet program.
If it was a DCMA, wouldn't it not show up at all? I've not encountered this before so I don't know how that works. Shouldn't sab be doing some sort of checking to make sure it has enough articles to download, I mean, it sits there plunking away at it and it appears to be downloading something...
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Re: Retention issue

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causalloop wrote: If it was a DCMA, wouldn't it not show up at all? I've not encountered this before so I don't know how that works. Shouldn't sab be doing some sort of checking to make sure it has enough articles to download, I mean, it sits there plunking away at it and it appears to be downloading something...
In case of a DCMA, it seems providers only remove just enough to cripple the post; so the leave 95% of the post there.

Luckily enough SABnzbd has a pre-download checker. See http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/introducing-0-7-0, and/or Config -> Switches

PS: there seems to be something else going on with DMCA: news providers replacing the message with another message containing text like "removed because of DMCA". That will result in problems at the moment SAB tries to par2/unrar the download (so after the pre-check and after the download).
I believe Shypike is working on a solution for this.

HTH
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Re: Retention issue

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sander wrote:
In case of a DCMA, it seems providers only remove just enough to cripple the post; so the leave 95% of the post there.

Luckily enough SABnzbd has a pre-download checker. See http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/introducing-0-7-0, and/or Config -> Switches

HTH
grumble...

you're talking about the switch "Check before download"? I have it checked. And it does say "checking"... but the time it takes to "check" is nearly the same time it would have taken to download it. ::)
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Re: Retention issue

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causalloop wrote:
sander wrote:
In case of a DCMA, it seems providers only remove just enough to cripple the post; so the leave 95% of the post there.

Luckily enough SABnzbd has a pre-download checker. See http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/introducing-0-7-0, and/or Config -> Switches

HTH
grumble...

you're talking about the switch "Check before download"? I have it checked. And it does say "checking"... but the time it takes to "check" is nearly the same time it would have taken to download it. ::)
Really? What is your Newsgroup download speed?
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Re: Retention issue

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Sorry for the late reply, I didn't get an email about your reply for some reason.

To answer your question, if I'm not doing anything other than downloading from easynews, I get around 3.1-4 MB/s (24-30Mb/s).
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