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I'm trying to figure out the best way to get my downloads to go to the proper folders without me having to manually set their category after I start the download. From what I understand, that's accomplished by using the "Groups/Indexer Tags" column when setting categories but for the life of me I can't figure out what I need to set in there to make it recognize properly.

In the manual it shows things as simple as just "TV" or "Games, Wii" in there, but that's not working for me. Do I need to put in like the entire name of the group in that field (like "alt.binaries.multimedia") or the name of the poster or...? What am I missing?
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You either use Usenet groupnames or categories from a select number of indexing sites.
For both you can use lists of wildcard expressions, like alt.bin*.boneless, alt.bin*.show*
We support categories of nzbmatrix.com (e.g. apps.linux) and newzbin.com (e.g. TV).
Note that those categories are only supported when SABnzbd can fetch the NZB files from sites by itself.
The problem is that NZB files themselves do not contain category info.
Any site you add in SABnzbd's RSS reader may have category info too, but that's rather hit and miss.
Also those categories will only work through the RSS reader.
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Well all of the files I've been trying to test this on I've been grabbing from binsearch.info so the simple categories that work from nzbmatrix and newzbin obviously won't work. But your comment led me to look at how they were named a little closer and I found this in the SABconnect++ documentation that seemed to fix my problem:

http://code.google.com/p/sabconnectplus ... Categories

Apparently I can't just put the name of the group in the far column, but I have to name the category itself after the group AND binsearch names them weird so when I wanted to sort things from alt.binaries.multimedia I had to name the group "a.b.multimedia" for it to work.

But it seems to be working like a charm now, so thanks for the help! :)
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Teeklin wrote: Apparently I can't just put the name of the group in the far column, but I have to name the category itself after the group AND binsearch names them weird so when I wanted to sort things from alt.binaries.multimedia I had to name the group "a.b.multimedia" for it to work.
You don't need to name the category after the group.
By default if will try to use the category name to match the external category.
But it will also use the names in in right column.
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shypike wrote:
Teeklin wrote: Apparently I can't just put the name of the group in the far column, but I have to name the category itself after the group AND binsearch names them weird so when I wanted to sort things from alt.binaries.multimedia I had to name the group "a.b.multimedia" for it to work.
You don't need to name the category after the group.
By default if will try to use the category name to match the external category.
But it will also use the names in in right column.
If I leave everything the same in far right column, all the group names, and only change the name of the category from "a.b.multimedia" back to "tv" like I had it before, it stops working.

Flip the name of the category back to the name of the usenet group and it works like a charm again.
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Please email a screen shot of your non-working Config->Categories setup to bugs at sabnzbd.org
I suspect you're doing something wrong.
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shypike wrote:Please email a screen shot of your non-working Config->Categories setup to bugs at sabnzbd.org
I suspect you're doing something wrong.
Sure thing, should be on its way :)
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You mixing up things.
The categories are coupled to the Sort functions.
Each Sort has a list of associated categories.
So when you change the name of a category, you must check your Sort functions.
If you have "Season Sort" enabled without a category list, it will gobble up all categories.

So the issue isn't between the name of the category and the group name.
The issue is which category is coupled to which Sort function.
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shypike wrote:You mixing up things.
The categories are coupled to the Sort functions.
Each Sort has a list of associated categories.
So when you change the name of a category, you must check your Sort functions.
If you have "Season Sort" enabled without a category list, it will gobble up all categories.

So the issue isn't between the name of the category and the group name.
The issue is which category is coupled to which Sort function.
If you're talking about setting up things under the "Sorting configuration" menu (http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/configure-sorting) I haven't gotten that far yet. If you're talking about something else...I'm lost. I was going to set up all the categories first so that each download went to the correct folder, then worry about sorting them properly.
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Well, should any of the three sorting options be enabled, it will have an influence.
Other than that there is no reason why your category cannot be called TV.
Especially not since a.b.multimedia as a category name has no relation with the group name alt.binaries.multimedia.
TV can only be a "special" category in relation to sorting.
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shypike wrote:Well, should any of the three sorting options be enabled, it will have an influence.
Other than that there is no reason why your category cannot be called TV.
Especially not since a.b.multimedia as a category name has no relation with the group name alt.binaries.multimedia.
TV can only be a "special" category in relation to sorting.
I don't know why it has to be that way either, but as you can see from my screenshots the sorting doesn't work when the category is named TV (or anything else, Television, Teevee, Blahblah, etc.) but the second that I change the category name to "a.b.multimedia" everything is sorted properly.

As I said earlier, it seems to be a SABconnect++ issue like it says in the link but I don't know why it's that way.

http://code.google.com/p/sabconnectplus ... Categories
From the wiki wrote:binsearch.info
1st group that appears in "Group" column on binsearch.info will be sent as the Category. Make sure to create categories that have names equal to the groups you usually download from (eg. a.b.sounds.mp3.french). Sorry, but there's no way I can use the categories group field using the SABnzbd API... :\
I'm just happy I found a workaround and I'll also be looking into the other more supported sites you mentioned (nzbmatrix.com and newzbin.com) or maybe SickBeard to make things a little easier, but sometimes you just have to use binsearch to find the really rare stuff (or at least I haven't found a better site for finding really obscure items).
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