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Downloading fulle files vs nzb?

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Hi, I've only recently stumbled upon sabnzbd, and am a huge fan already.

One particular issue that I'm having trouble figuring out is how to download nzb files into the watched folder, then have these processed and the content of the nzb downloaded.

I have set up filters to go through RSS feeds created by doing a search on NZBIndexnl (e.g. one RSS feed returns all results for "720p HDTV" that are between 50Mb and 2,000Mb from a particular group, and then filters pick up particular matches within that feed).  I have the option to prevent duplicates from being downloaded, categories set up on the filters to trigger post processing, and the sorting switched on - my downloads are going to the right place, and sabnzbd is cleaning up after itself.  So far so good.

Today sabnzbd didn't download a file I was expecting.  Turns out, that the search result is an nzb file itself, and was therefore under the minimum file size specified in the NZIndex.nl feed.  I removed the minimum, and while the nzb file then downloaded, it was sorted into the category folder.  I've tried setting it to download to the watched folder, and leaving it with no category, and the result is sabnzbd downloading the nzb and adding a folder under the watched folder called '_UNPACK_xxx' where xxx is the filename.  Checking the logs, sabnzbd then picks up the nzb, but skips it as it's already downloaded a file of the same name.

Basically, I would like sabnzb to download the full file if found first (i.e. a .mkv) and sort into the appropriate folder, renamed, unpack etc (I have this working well), but if the nzb file is listed first in the search results, then I'd like it to download that, add to the watch folder, download the resulting full file (i.e. the .mkv) and then sort this into the appropriate folder, rename, unpack etc.

Am I missing something that's easy, or is this not possible?  Thanks in advance. :)
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Re: Downloading fulle files vs nzb?

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It's not possible to let the MKV have priority over the NZB,
they're both NZBs and for SABnzbd the same.
Only after downloading will it be clear what has been downloaded.
That duplicate checking prevents the automatic chaining of the NZB is an error.
Obviously a chained download should not be filtered out.
I'll check if this is really true.

I'm not sure what the watched folder has to do with this.
You are using RSS feeds, which have no relation to the watched folder.
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Re: Downloading fulle files vs nzb?

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I'm not sure what the watched folder has to do with it either, now I've explored/experimented more.  :)

For some reason a file I tried to have automatically download yesterday matched the nzb first, downloaded that, but then didn't send the nzb to the queue to download the actual full file.  So I got it in my head that perhaps I had to point the nzb downloads to the watched folder for sabnzbd to then pick up the nzb and download the contents.  Tried again today, and after downloading the nzb file, sabnzbd automagically sent the downloaded nzb to the queue and started downloading the full file - something I was trying to get it to do in the first place.  Perhaps put it down to gremlins on my first attempt!

So, in summary, thanks for the quick response, all appears to be working fine, and I'm a noob. :)
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Perhaps not so much a noob after all.

All the NZBs downloaded from the feed correctly being sent to the queue, but are being skipped for being duplicates.  ???
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I think you are right.
There is something wrong with duplicate checking combined with NZB chaining.
It's normally not very noticeable for two reasons:
When people enter the NZB manually, the name of the secondary NZB is rarely exactly the same.
RSS feeds usually do not show NZBs that only download another NZB.
I'll look into this.
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Re: Downloading fulle files vs nzb?

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It seems to be working more often than it's not (i.e. 4 out of 5 are downloading the nzb, then sending this to the queue and successfully downloading the files themselves).  There doesn't seem to be a pattern to those that aren't, but I'll keep a closer eye and report back if I notice anything common between the ones that are being skipped as duplicates.

I found another potential little issue with the duplicate skipping (it's the first time I've seen this happen).  sabnzbd downloaded a nzb file, sent this to the queue and started downloading the file itself.  It also found another new entry with a different version of the file being downloaded (presumably in the same rss read, as it happened less than a minute apart), grabbed the nzb for this new entry and added the file to the queue (which subsequently downloaded).  When does the duplicate check actually happen?

p.s. thanks for the quick reply again.  Awesome application, and awesome developer. ;)
Last edited by kompakt on October 8th, 2010, 12:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Downloading fulle files vs nzb?

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In the case of RSS, there are two checks.
The first one in the RSS, when the titles in the feed are compared to previous downloads.
The second check in when entering the queue and then the filename of the NZB
file is compared to previous NZB file names.
Note that RSS titles and NZB filenames need not be the same.
Many feed providers use more elaborate texts for their RSS titles then  for their NZB file names.
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